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By: geo:anything » Blog Archive » Minat OGC kepada GeoRSS

geo:anything » Blog Archive » Minat OGC kepada GeoRSS — Wed, 09 Aug 2006 12:36:17 +0000

[...] GeoRSS yang sedang naik daun tersebut, semakin berkibar saja tampaknya. Petinggi-petinggi OGC terlihat antusias untuk memasukkan GeoRSS sebagai salah satu spesifikasi pendukung program interoperabilitas mereka. Namun demikian, motivasi ini dinilai beberapa pengembang bisa menimbulkan kerancuan (lihat selengkapnya di hobu.biz), baik dari segi hak inteletual maupun pembahasan standarnya (OGC adalah konsorsium berbasis organisasi, sehingga individual, pengembang dan pemrogram contohnya, tidak bisa terlibat dalam pengesahan sebuah spesifikasi). Kabar terakhir memuat keterangan pihak OGC yang menegaskan bahwa hak intelektual GeoRSS akan tetap dipertahankan sebagai lisensi “Creative Commons“. [...]

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Digital Earth Weblog » Blog Archive » OGC and the Little Guy — Sat, 10 Jun 2006 04:43:11 +0000

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By: Allan Doyle

Allan Doyle — Thu, 08 Jun 2006 23:56:54 +0000

Chris – I put in a trackback but it seems to not have worked, Thanks for the link back.

I don’t know if OSGEO wants to do standards or even pseudo-standards. By conflicts do you mean internal or with other organizations?

Let’s assume you mean internal, that there might be two groups working on roughly the same thing.

I see no specific reason not to be working on more than one spec that covers the same topic, particularly if they are different enough in approach. I’d rather have two well thought out things to deal with than a hodge-podge. Also, the two camps might learn from each other and might realize they are not that far apart. Better to have that happen in an open environment than a closed one.

Also, you have to assume that when the time is right for an idea, more than one person or group will start working on it. Again, better to have some open process so people can notice each other.

Then let’s distinguish between development of the spec and ratifying the spec. I think people should get less hung up on premature ratification. It forces you do behave in silly ways. The IETF model was to only consider specs that had at least two independent implementations that are shown to interoperate. That means that the spec maturity was high enough to have gained some traction. I’m not sure if they do things exactly that way anymore, but it’s a good model.

So forget about the “standardization”, let’s develop some specs. The good ones will bubble up and win out. If they don’t it’s more than likely due to personal ego issues or business reasons usually dreamed up by the marketing departments, not the techies.

By: Chris Tweedie

Chris Tweedie — Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:59:38 +0000

Allan Doyle’s followup can be found at his blog http://think.random-stuff.org/FrontPage/archive/2006/06/08/tempest-in-the-standards-world

A crosspost of my reply,

“The last point made me think for a moment Allan. Does OSGEO even want to get into the pseudo-standard space? If they do, it may cause some interesting conflicts in the future”

By: walt

walt — Thu, 08 Jun 2006 17:13:24 +0000

Yikes! I think that Allan is on to something when (on his blog) he suggests that the Open Source Geospatial Foundation might be the organization to take over GeoRSS.

By: James Fee - GIS & ESRI Blog :: Allan Doyle on OGC vs GeoRSS

James Fee - GIS & ESRI Blog :: Allan Doyle on OGC vs GeoRSS — Thu, 08 Jun 2006 16:10:49 +0000

[...] I had caught Howard Butler’s post on his take about OGC and GeoRSS and now I see Chris Tweedie and Allan Doyle responded. One comment by Allan that caught my eye: “But when it comes down to which organization I support directly by my efforts, it matters a lot. Right now, the first compellingly neutral organization that jumps to mind is the Open Source Geospatial Foundation. I wonder if the time is right to have the Open Source Geospatial Foundation become the sponsor/host/supporter of GeoRSS?” [...]